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Gunslinging Lawmen of the 20th Century – that you never Heard of

First thought that comes to mind is Wyatt Earp. We’re talking lawmen from the mid 1930’s to later in the 20th century. You’ll see a common core that they all share in their survival stories – that is to be very decisive and not hesitate when it was time to pull the trigger. Maybe, this was a function of the eras during which some of these officers worked, partly the assignments they had, and partly it was just that their own natures made them particularly proactive.

What stands out is that these lawmen did not use the conventional best practice way of shooting that we’re accustomed to. Such as sight alignment, grips, smooth trigger pull, sight picture, Isoceles/Weaver stances, etc… Though, these lawmen have their way of shooting or what was taught back in those days…

These lawmen were no slouch when things heated up, they fought the bad guys with grit and determination. Their high level of discerning a deadly situation and making a quick decision to act on it to save lives help in providing a safer community. Without further adieu here are some of the 20th century lawmen that you may never have heard of:

Ralph Friedman

NYPD’s Most Decorative Detective of the 70′-80’s.
He was assigned to the 41st Precinct in the Bronx, known as Ft Apache. It was one of the highest crime rate areas in the country. During his career he made over 2,000 arrests. Ralph Friedman was involved in 15 shootouts in the course of which he was forced to shoot eight perpetrators, killing four.
After two years on with NYPD, in 1972, he had to kill a man in the line of duty for the first time. Here is how Friedman describe this terrible experience.
The following is an excerpt from Ralph Friedman book “Street Warrior”:

“Muzzle blasts lit up the area. We’d passed through a short foyer adjacent to the living room and were now standing in a hallway that led to the rear of the apartment. There was a black male three feet in front of us, shirtless, gun extended, firing rapidly. Kal went down almost immediately, firing his revolver as he pitched forward. The noise of the gunfight in a confined space was ear-shattering, and I felt as if an ice pick was being shoved into my brain. I had my gun extended and was firing rounds at the guy who was shooting at us. The room was caught up in a strobe-like miasma of light, scream and curses.

“The gunman tried to get by me, but I grabbed his shoulder and we struggled, grunting and swearing, although our voices sounded muffled given the effect the gunshots had on my hearing. Everything was happening very quickly, yet it felt like slow motion. I was fighting for my life, nearly deaf from the gunshots, and wondering if I’d been hit. The shooter was about my height, medium build. A river of adrenaline was pumping through me, and I knew if I didn’t put him down, I was gonna die.
I heard the approaching cavalry — the job now a rapid response ‘shots fired,’ allowing for flashing lights and sirens all the way — or thought I did. The troops were coming, and I hoped they’d arrive in time. As we fought, I pressed my gun against the gunman’s chest, hoping I still had ammo, and fired. I heard the welcome sound of a boom, no empty chamber click. The gunman went down like a dropped anchor. I found later he’d been hit a few times, but my last round got him in the heart. The three of us had fired a total of 18 rounds in what couldn’t have been more than a 10-second gun battle inside what seems like a medium-sized closet.”

Here is what he learned from his gun fighting experiences:
-I carried two while on duty — so why learn an entirely new weapon? Surviving a gunfight is about shot placement, not throwing numerous rounds at a target and hoping a few hit their mark. Training is the key, not necessarily large-capacity magazine.

-Carry enough guns. Carry enough gun. Sub-optimal 158-gr. SWC .38 Special rounds were issued during Friedman’s time on NYPD. Revolvers were superseded by 16-shot 9mm autos in the early 1990s, and the last .38 grandfathered as a primary duty gun left the streets of the Big Apple in August of 2018. Circa 1999, New York City cops at last got hollow point ammunition, and the 9mm Speer Gold Dot 124-gr. +P seems to have solved long standing complaints about feeble ammo from the rank and file of New York’s Finest.

-Maximum control equals maximum hit potential. Friedman told me except for when he killed the man who shot his partner, while grappling at muzzle contact, he was able to hold his .38 in both hands in all his other shootings. He also said every shot he ever fired on the street was double action.

-Have secure holsters, including off-duty scabbards that won’t dislodge from your belt in a strenuous physical fight.

Delf A. Bryce also known as “Jelly Bryce”

Jelly Bryce was an Oklahoma City policeman and an FBI agent, active from 1928 to 1958. He was significant for being an exceptional marksman and a fast draw. He survived 19 gunfights, some during the “gangster era.” Bryce was considered a master of point shooting.

At the age of 22, on his second day with Oklahoma City police he confronted a thief trying to hot-wire a car. He identified himself as a police officer, after which the suspect drew a pistol; Bryce then drew his and shot and killed the criminal.
On another occasion during his first year, while patrolling in a police car, he confronted two thieves attempting to break into furniture store premises. After Bryce demanded their surrender they both fired pistols; Bryce then drew and fired twice, killing both men.
Jelly Bryce shooting skills were freakingly amazing and accurate. Though, he possessed natural shooting talent, he also trained relentlessly both with live fire and dry firing in front of a mirror. What sets him apart from someone in a gunfight is that Bryce can quickly assess the situation and beat his perpetrator to the punch (shoot) first while on the move.

For those that knew him, Jelly Bryce was a fanatic when it came to training. Here are some of his methodology:

  • Fast draw
  • Accurate point shooting
  • Training relentlessly with Live fire
  • Drawing and Dry Firing in front of a mirror daily
  • Being decisive in gunfights
  • In other words – move, draw, and shoot quickly and accurately under stress.

    Here’s Youtuber OrigamiAK demonstrating shooting on the move from the appendix carry.

    Bob Stasch – Chicago PD Veteran Of 14 Gunfights
    Here is a 52 minute interview with Chicago PD Lieutenant Bob Stasch. He has been in 14 gunfights. Many people have big beliefs and swear on “stopping power”. Hearing Bob Stasch encounters in his LEO gunfights it seems that there is a possibility that people have a stronger will to survive beyond rational belief. I tell customers at work, that people will surprise you. They can defy physics and rationality and Bob Stasch’s example is a good one.

    He shares his personal retort to “why did you fire?”. “I fired to live” as opposed to “I fired because i was in immediate danger of death or serious bodily harm”. It is a subtle change that still conveys the same amount of information in a short and concise method.

  • Gunfights happens at arms length and no further than 20 feet away
  • Best point of aim is eye to target, eye to muzzle, emphasis on the front sight which leads to point/instinctive shooting for gunfighting.
  • If there were shots fired at greater distances than 20 feet, it was suppressive fire for cover
  • Center mass shots may not stop an attacker, head shots would need to be relied on.
  • His preferred practice target is a 6″ paper plate. From his experience in gunfights, he has progressed to aim for the head. If he can hit the plate, he is confident he can hit a head at combat distances.
  • Use of two hands while combat shooting was never used. Everything was one hand shooting.
  • Use of off hand were normally used for talking on the radio, putting hand out for balance while shooting
  • Frank Pape Chicago PD

    Pape “sent 300 men to prison, five to the electric chair and engaged in more than a dozen gun battles, surviving without a scratch while sending nine suspects to their graves.” Pape had never fired his gun in the line of duty until his partner, Morris Friedman, was gunned down. After that, he “carved for himself a reputation for fearlessness if not ruthlessness, sometimes going after criminals with a Thompson submachine gun.

    ‘My attitude was: If you shoot at me, I’m going to kill you if I can,’ Pape said years later. ‘Of the nine people I shot, every one of them had a gun and in every instance they had used it or were about to use it. I wouldn’t take them into custody and I don’t give a damn who criticized me for it.’”
    Due to the nature of Frank Pape’s nature of hazardous assignment, he was known to carry multiple pistols. Before high capacity magazine was the norm, Frank Pape needed to be armed with multiple pistols while on these raids. So Frank custom tailored his pants and coat pockets to carry extra pistols.
    Frank Pape was known to be armed with .38 caliber revolvers, 44 Magnum and even a Thompson machinegun when taking down robbers.

    Jim Cirillo

    The late Jim Cirillo was a member of the New York City Police Department’s Stakeout Squad (SOU), where he was forced to kill at least 11 men in the course of more than 20 gunfights during the 40-man unit’s some 250-plus stakeouts.
    Jim was armed with his issue Smith & Wesson M10 4-inch barrel .38 Special revolver, but he also used a matching gun as one of his back-ups, which included his personally owned Colt Cobra .38 Special 2-inch barrel and Walther PPK in .32 ACP. He was also armed with either of two types of 12-gauge shotguns – a short, double-barrel Savage or a short-barrel Ithaca Model 37—and the option to use an S&W Model 76 9mm submachine gun.

    In an interview conducted by Paul Kirchner a question was asked whether the use of sights during a gunfight was necessary. Jim said he did use his sights whenever he could.
    In his first and most written-about shootout (the second of the SOU and his first gunfight), he and “George Ballinger” (a fictitious name at the officer’s request) set up at the Old McDonald’s Farm Store on 101st Avenue in the Jamaica section of Queens, New York. Jim fired six shots in 3 to 4 seconds against threats with exposed areas no more than 8 inches in diameter at distances of 20 to 25 yards.

    Jim and his partner were hiding behind and slightly above the cashier counter when the three robbers entered. One confronted the cashier. As Jim rose to challenge him, the codpiece on Jim’s vest fell loudly to the floor, causing the robber to duck down behind the counter and run along its length. Jim shot him three times in the head and killed him. He then fired at the other two as they ran out. His partner also fired, using a shotgun. The two robbers were later arrested, suffering from handgun and 00-buckshot wounds. Jim said he was looking so hard at the front sight of his revolver he could see the serrations in it.
    What was and is still ignored are instances where he or other officers were not able to do such sighting. In these later instances, they were confined in small spaces or had to fire through small shooting ports such that they could not sight their handguns. They still came out on top with the felons either dead or seriously wounded.
    In my conversations with him, Cirillo further clarified what he meant, saying he knew where the sights were while he looked at the “background,” He also said his shootings were done at the subconscious level and reflected how he trained.
    If you have the time, favorable lighting and the need for a precise shot at some distance, take the best sight picture you can get. Conversely, if you are up close and under attack, use only as much (if any) sighting needed to make the same well-placed shot, keeping in mind Jim also found that only accurate shots, regardless of caliber, can stop a life or death fight.

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    Federal Appeals Court Upholds California Laws Banning Gun Shows on Public Property


    In a 3-0 decision, the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals upheld California laws that ban gun shows at county fairs and other public properties. This ruling overturned a previous decision by a federal judge in October that had blocked the enforcement of these laws.

    The laws in question were introduced by Democratic State Senator Dave Min. The first law, which went into effect in January 2022, specifically prohibited gun shows at the Orange County Fair. The second law, effective last year, extended this ban to county fairgrounds on state-owned land throughout California.

    Last year, U.S. District Judge Mark Holcomb ruled that these laws violated the rights of gun sellers and potential buyers. He argued that preventing the purchase of firearms at these events infringed upon commercial speech protected by the First Amendment, as lawful gun sales involve such speech.

    However, the appeals court took a different view, stating that the laws do not violate the First Amendment. Judge Richard Clifton wrote that the bans simply prohibit sales agreements on public property and do not limit discussions, advertisements, or other speech related to firearms. Clifton noted that a separate, unchallenged state law mandates that the actual purchase of a firearm at a gun show be completed at a licensed gun store, following a 10-day waiting period and a background check.

    California Attorney General Rob Bonta praised the ruling, calling it a victory in the fight against gun violence. Bonta emphasized that firearms should not be sold on state-owned property and lauded the decision as a step towards greater public safety.

    Gun-control advocates argue that gun shows can make firearms more attractive to children and facilitate “straw purchases,” where individuals buy guns for those who are legally prohibited from owning them.

    The case originated from a lawsuit by B&L Productions, a gun show company, which claimed that the ban on fairgrounds sales infringed upon the Second Amendment right to keep and bear arms. The appeals court countered this claim, pointing out that there were six licensed firearms dealers in the same ZIP code as the Orange County Fairgrounds, indicating that the law did not restrict access to firearms.

    Chuck Michel, president of the California Rifle & Pistol Association and attorney for the plaintiffs, expressed intent to appeal the ruling. Michel criticized the decision, asserting that it discriminates against gun culture and infringes on fundamental rights.

    As this legal battle continues, the tension between gun rights advocates and those pushing for stricter gun control measures remains high. This case highlights the ongoing debate over how best to balance public safety concerns with constitutional rights in the United States.

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    National African American Gun Association (NAAGA) Unveils 2024

    Dallas, TX – The National African American Gun Association (NAAGA) is thrilled to announce the 2024
    National Summit, a dynamic four-day event dedicated to fostering growth within the 2A community. The
    summit is scheduled to take place from July 25th to July 28th and will be hosted at the Dallas/Addison
    Marriott Quorum by Galleria in Dallas, TX.

    This annual gathering marks NAAGA’s celebration of its 9th anniversary, continuing the organization’s
    commitment to the rich tradition of arms in the African American community. NAAGA aims to expose,
    educate, and motivate African American men, women, and youth to exercise their 2nd Amendment
    rights responsibly.
    Exciting Features of the 2024 National Summit:

    • Luxurious Venue: The summit will unfold at the recently renovated Dallas/Addison Marriott Quorum
      by Galleria, providing attendees with a sophisticated and comfortable setting.
    • Diverse Programming: With over 50 breakout sessions, attendees can delve into topics such as the
      history of arms in the African American community, youth and gun safety, women in the firearms
      community, political action, situational awareness, personal defense methods, and a dedicated session
      for African American firearms instructors.
    • Entertaining Events: The summit will feature a range of events, including the Sneaker Ball – a night of
      fashion, awards, and dancing; the Queen of Defense Breakfast – an interactive event for women only;
      Family Night at the Black Invitational Rodeo and Bullets and BBQ – a day at the range filled with training,
      fun, food and friendly competition; a social mixer, open range time, hourly gun giveaways, and
      opportunities to explore products from top manufacturers at the Vendors and Exhibits area.
    • Community Engagement: Attendees can connect with thousands of African American gun owners and
      supporters from across the country, fostering education, training, and fellowship.

    NAAGA invites all individuals passionate about 2nd Amendment rights, safety, and responsible

    firearms ownership to participate in this enriching event. For ticket information and registration, please visit For media inquiries, please email

    About the National African American Gun Association (NAAGA)
    Founded in 2015, NAAGA stands as a unique brotherhood and sisterhood in the firearms industry. The
    organization is dedicated to educating and training the African American community on the rich legacy
    of gun ownership, offering support, safety standards, and cultural inspiration.

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    New Hampshire House Passes Pro-Gun Bill Protecting Firearm Purchasers’ Privacy


    On Thursday, May 30th, the New Hampshire House of Representatives made a significant move in favor of gun rights by passing House Bill 1186, an act designed to protect the privacy of firearm purchasers. The bill now awaits Governor Chris Sununu’s signature, and supporters of the Second Amendment are encouraged to contact the Governor to advocate for this crucial legislation.

    Key Provisions of House Bill 1186

    House Bill 1186 specifically prohibits the use of a unique merchant category code for transactions involving firearms, ammunition, or firearm accessories. This measure is designed to protect the privacy of gun owners by preventing the tracking of gun-related purchases through credit and debit card transactions. The bill also includes a provision for civil penalties for any violations, ensuring that individuals and businesses comply with the new law.

    Protecting Gun Owners’ Privacy

    If signed into law, HB 1186 will be a vital safeguard for gun owners in New Hampshire. By preventing the creation of a specific merchant category code for firearm-related purchases, the bill ensures that transactions cannot be easily tracked or used to compile a gun registry. This protection is essential in preventing bad actors from using financial data to interfere with lawful gun ownership.

    The Importance of HB 1186

    The passage of HB 1186 represents a significant victory for gun rights advocates and a reaffirmation of the Second Amendment. The bill addresses a growing concern among gun owners that their purchases could be monitored or restricted through financial institutions. By safeguarding the privacy of these transactions, New Hampshire is taking a strong stance in protecting the rights of its citizens.

    The NRA and its members are urging Governor Chris Sununu to sign HB 1186 into law. Supporters of the Second Amendment and gun rights advocates should contact the Governor’s office to express their support for this critical legislation. Prime sponsor Rep. Jason Janvrin (R-Rockingham) and other lawmakers who backed the bill deserve recognition for their efforts to uphold the privacy and rights of Granite Staters.

    House Bill 1186 is a crucial piece of legislation that protects the privacy of firearm purchasers and upholds the rights of gun owners in New Hampshire. By preventing the use of specific merchant category codes for gun-related transactions, the bill ensures that financial data cannot be used to create a gun registry or restrict lawful purchases. Governor Chris Sununu’s signature on this bill will be a significant step forward in defending the Second Amendment and protecting the privacy of gun owners.

    Contact Governor Chris Sununu today and urge him to sign House Bill 1186 into law. Your voice is essential in ensuring that this critical legislation becomes law and continues to protect the privacy and rights of all gun owners in New Hampshire.

    Contact Information for Governor Chris Sununu:

    Phone: (603) 271-2121


    Make sure to express your support for HB 1186 and emphasize the importance of protecting the privacy and rights of gun owners.

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