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Gunslinging Lawmen of the 20th Century – that you never Heard of

First thought that comes to mind is Wyatt Earp. We’re talking lawmen from the mid 1930’s to later in the 20th century. You’ll see a common core that they all share in their survival stories – that is to be very decisive and not hesitate when it was time to pull the trigger. Maybe, this was a function of the eras during which some of these officers worked, partly the assignments they had, and partly it was just that their own natures made them particularly proactive.

What stands out is that these lawmen did not use the conventional best practice way of shooting that we’re accustomed to. Such as sight alignment, grips, smooth trigger pull, sight picture, Isoceles/Weaver stances, etc… Though, these lawmen have their way of shooting or what was taught back in those days…

These lawmen were no slouch when things heated up, they fought the bad guys with grit and determination. Their high level of discerning a deadly situation and making a quick decision to act on it to save lives help in providing a safer community. Without further adieu here are some of the 20th century lawmen that you may never have heard of:

Ralph Friedman

NYPD’s Most Decorative Detective of the 70′-80’s.
He was assigned to the 41st Precinct in the Bronx, known as Ft Apache. It was one of the highest crime rate areas in the country. During his career he made over 2,000 arrests. Ralph Friedman was involved in 15 shootouts in the course of which he was forced to shoot eight perpetrators, killing four.
After two years on with NYPD, in 1972, he had to kill a man in the line of duty for the first time. Here is how Friedman describe this terrible experience.
The following is an excerpt from Ralph Friedman book “Street Warrior”:

“Muzzle blasts lit up the area. We’d passed through a short foyer adjacent to the living room and were now standing in a hallway that led to the rear of the apartment. There was a black male three feet in front of us, shirtless, gun extended, firing rapidly. Kal went down almost immediately, firing his revolver as he pitched forward. The noise of the gunfight in a confined space was ear-shattering, and I felt as if an ice pick was being shoved into my brain. I had my gun extended and was firing rounds at the guy who was shooting at us. The room was caught up in a strobe-like miasma of light, scream and curses.

“The gunman tried to get by me, but I grabbed his shoulder and we struggled, grunting and swearing, although our voices sounded muffled given the effect the gunshots had on my hearing. Everything was happening very quickly, yet it felt like slow motion. I was fighting for my life, nearly deaf from the gunshots, and wondering if I’d been hit. The shooter was about my height, medium build. A river of adrenaline was pumping through me, and I knew if I didn’t put him down, I was gonna die.
I heard the approaching cavalry — the job now a rapid response ‘shots fired,’ allowing for flashing lights and sirens all the way — or thought I did. The troops were coming, and I hoped they’d arrive in time. As we fought, I pressed my gun against the gunman’s chest, hoping I still had ammo, and fired. I heard the welcome sound of a boom, no empty chamber click. The gunman went down like a dropped anchor. I found later he’d been hit a few times, but my last round got him in the heart. The three of us had fired a total of 18 rounds in what couldn’t have been more than a 10-second gun battle inside what seems like a medium-sized closet.”

Here is what he learned from his gun fighting experiences:
-I carried two while on duty — so why learn an entirely new weapon? Surviving a gunfight is about shot placement, not throwing numerous rounds at a target and hoping a few hit their mark. Training is the key, not necessarily large-capacity magazine.

-Carry enough guns. Carry enough gun. Sub-optimal 158-gr. SWC .38 Special rounds were issued during Friedman’s time on NYPD. Revolvers were superseded by 16-shot 9mm autos in the early 1990s, and the last .38 grandfathered as a primary duty gun left the streets of the Big Apple in August of 2018. Circa 1999, New York City cops at last got hollow point ammunition, and the 9mm Speer Gold Dot 124-gr. +P seems to have solved long standing complaints about feeble ammo from the rank and file of New York’s Finest.

-Maximum control equals maximum hit potential. Friedman told me except for when he killed the man who shot his partner, while grappling at muzzle contact, he was able to hold his .38 in both hands in all his other shootings. He also said every shot he ever fired on the street was double action.

-Have secure holsters, including off-duty scabbards that won’t dislodge from your belt in a strenuous physical fight.

Delf A. Bryce also known as “Jelly Bryce”

Jelly Bryce was an Oklahoma City policeman and an FBI agent, active from 1928 to 1958. He was significant for being an exceptional marksman and a fast draw. He survived 19 gunfights, some during the “gangster era.” Bryce was considered a master of point shooting.

At the age of 22, on his second day with Oklahoma City police he confronted a thief trying to hot-wire a car. He identified himself as a police officer, after which the suspect drew a pistol; Bryce then drew his and shot and killed the criminal.
On another occasion during his first year, while patrolling in a police car, he confronted two thieves attempting to break into furniture store premises. After Bryce demanded their surrender they both fired pistols; Bryce then drew and fired twice, killing both men.
Jelly Bryce shooting skills were freakingly amazing and accurate. Though, he possessed natural shooting talent, he also trained relentlessly both with live fire and dry firing in front of a mirror. What sets him apart from someone in a gunfight is that Bryce can quickly assess the situation and beat his perpetrator to the punch (shoot) first while on the move.

For those that knew him, Jelly Bryce was a fanatic when it came to training. Here are some of his methodology:

  • Fast draw
  • Accurate point shooting
  • Training relentlessly with Live fire
  • Drawing and Dry Firing in front of a mirror daily
  • Being decisive in gunfights
  • In other words – move, draw, and shoot quickly and accurately under stress.

    Here’s Youtuber OrigamiAK demonstrating shooting on the move from the appendix carry.

    Bob Stasch – Chicago PD Veteran Of 14 Gunfights
    Here is a 52 minute interview with Chicago PD Lieutenant Bob Stasch. He has been in 14 gunfights. Many people have big beliefs and swear on “stopping power”. Hearing Bob Stasch encounters in his LEO gunfights it seems that there is a possibility that people have a stronger will to survive beyond rational belief. I tell customers at work, that people will surprise you. They can defy physics and rationality and Bob Stasch’s example is a good one.

    He shares his personal retort to “why did you fire?”. “I fired to live” as opposed to “I fired because i was in immediate danger of death or serious bodily harm”. It is a subtle change that still conveys the same amount of information in a short and concise method.

  • Gunfights happens at arms length and no further than 20 feet away
  • Best point of aim is eye to target, eye to muzzle, emphasis on the front sight which leads to point/instinctive shooting for gunfighting.
  • If there were shots fired at greater distances than 20 feet, it was suppressive fire for cover
  • Center mass shots may not stop an attacker, head shots would need to be relied on.
  • His preferred practice target is a 6″ paper plate. From his experience in gunfights, he has progressed to aim for the head. If he can hit the plate, he is confident he can hit a head at combat distances.
  • Use of two hands while combat shooting was never used. Everything was one hand shooting.
  • Use of off hand were normally used for talking on the radio, putting hand out for balance while shooting
  • Frank Pape Chicago PD

    Pape “sent 300 men to prison, five to the electric chair and engaged in more than a dozen gun battles, surviving without a scratch while sending nine suspects to their graves.” Pape had never fired his gun in the line of duty until his partner, Morris Friedman, was gunned down. After that, he “carved for himself a reputation for fearlessness if not ruthlessness, sometimes going after criminals with a Thompson submachine gun.

    ‘My attitude was: If you shoot at me, I’m going to kill you if I can,’ Pape said years later. ‘Of the nine people I shot, every one of them had a gun and in every instance they had used it or were about to use it. I wouldn’t take them into custody and I don’t give a damn who criticized me for it.’”
    Due to the nature of Frank Pape’s nature of hazardous assignment, he was known to carry multiple pistols. Before high capacity magazine was the norm, Frank Pape needed to be armed with multiple pistols while on these raids. So Frank custom tailored his pants and coat pockets to carry extra pistols.
    Frank Pape was known to be armed with .38 caliber revolvers, 44 Magnum and even a Thompson machinegun when taking down robbers.

    Jim Cirillo

    The late Jim Cirillo was a member of the New York City Police Department’s Stakeout Squad (SOU), where he was forced to kill at least 11 men in the course of more than 20 gunfights during the 40-man unit’s some 250-plus stakeouts.
    Jim was armed with his issue Smith & Wesson M10 4-inch barrel .38 Special revolver, but he also used a matching gun as one of his back-ups, which included his personally owned Colt Cobra .38 Special 2-inch barrel and Walther PPK in .32 ACP. He was also armed with either of two types of 12-gauge shotguns – a short, double-barrel Savage or a short-barrel Ithaca Model 37—and the option to use an S&W Model 76 9mm submachine gun.

    In an interview conducted by Paul Kirchner a question was asked whether the use of sights during a gunfight was necessary. Jim said he did use his sights whenever he could.
    In his first and most written-about shootout (the second of the SOU and his first gunfight), he and “George Ballinger” (a fictitious name at the officer’s request) set up at the Old McDonald’s Farm Store on 101st Avenue in the Jamaica section of Queens, New York. Jim fired six shots in 3 to 4 seconds against threats with exposed areas no more than 8 inches in diameter at distances of 20 to 25 yards.

    Jim and his partner were hiding behind and slightly above the cashier counter when the three robbers entered. One confronted the cashier. As Jim rose to challenge him, the codpiece on Jim’s vest fell loudly to the floor, causing the robber to duck down behind the counter and run along its length. Jim shot him three times in the head and killed him. He then fired at the other two as they ran out. His partner also fired, using a shotgun. The two robbers were later arrested, suffering from handgun and 00-buckshot wounds. Jim said he was looking so hard at the front sight of his revolver he could see the serrations in it.
    What was and is still ignored are instances where he or other officers were not able to do such sighting. In these later instances, they were confined in small spaces or had to fire through small shooting ports such that they could not sight their handguns. They still came out on top with the felons either dead or seriously wounded.
    In my conversations with him, Cirillo further clarified what he meant, saying he knew where the sights were while he looked at the “background,” He also said his shootings were done at the subconscious level and reflected how he trained.
    If you have the time, favorable lighting and the need for a precise shot at some distance, take the best sight picture you can get. Conversely, if you are up close and under attack, use only as much (if any) sighting needed to make the same well-placed shot, keeping in mind Jim also found that only accurate shots, regardless of caliber, can stop a life or death fight.

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    Manage your Hunting Property

    It’s terrifying to some, a destructive force that ravages the countryside. However, fire is the best
    tool for managing your hunting property when adequately managed.

    Using fire to manage land is a technique dating back to when Native Americans freely roamed
    our lands. It’s believed that they noticed how the bison and other wildlife grazed heavily on the
    fresh sprouts after a burn had occurred due to lightning strikes or it being intentionally set by the

    The Benefits of Fire

    For thousands of years, fire was the primary way to promote new growth, return nutrients to the
    soil, and ensure only the most desirable plants were growing. However, in the last century,
    we’ve become scared of fire and rarely use controlled burns to manage our properties.

    So we have turned to things like clearing thickets for food plots, spraying, putting out mineral
    blocks, and installing corn feeders in the states that allow it. Costing us thousands of dollars a
    year, not to mention all the blood, sweat, and tears we pour into hours of working the land.

    I’m proposing you save a lot of that money to spend on new camo, 30-30 ammo, or a new deer
    stand and use prescribed burning to help keep the wildlife on your land fat and happy.

    Below, I’ve gathered some pros of using fire to manage your land.

    ● Burning is FREE (unless you hire someone to do it)
    ● Deer, turkey, and many other wild animals thrive after a controlled burn
    ● Fire allows natural food sources to sprout up, even in places they haven’t been for
    ● Fire helps some native species sprout and survive
    ● Fire hurts or kills undesirable species
    ● Fire is great for pastures and forests
    ● Prescribed burns reduce the risk of wildfires
    ● Fire helps restore nutrients to the soil
    ● Fire improves water quality by allowing more water to gather in the creeks for fish and
    other animals to drink instead of being absorbed by shrubs and other non-desirable
    ● Fire helps control the spread of insects such as ticks and some tree diseases

    As you can tell, burning has many positives; however, I must also share some of the downsides
    of prescribed burning
    with you.

    The Drawbacks of Fire

    While the benefits of using prescribed burns to manage a property far outweigh the drawbacks,
    you should still be aware of the cons.

    One of the most significant downsides you’ll have to deal with is complaints from your neighbors
    about air quality on the day you burn and a few days after. I recommend informing them that
    you plan to burn before you begin so some neighbors will understand, but others will complain
    no matter what you do.

    The most significant danger is that the fire gets out of control because you haven’t burned the
    debris before, turning it into a raging inferno. That’s why you should always let your local fire
    department know you plan to burn, and you should create fire breaks throughout your property
    to burn in smaller chunks and keep things contained.

    Though fire can save you a lot of money, planning and executing a burn will take a lot of time.
    You’ll likely need some help from friends and family on the day of the burn.

    Unlike spraying and planting food plots, seeing the results from burning could take a year or
    two. So you’re playing the long game when using prescribed burns to manage your property,
    but in the end, it’s well worth it.

    ● Complaints from neighbors about air quality and danger
    ● Prescribed burns can get out of control and cause a wildfire when done incorrectly or
    ● Creating a prescribed burning plan and implementing the plan is time-consuming
    ● Sometimes, it takes a few years to see the positive impact of fire
    ● Fire needs to be used year after year on pastures and every few years in forests
    ● The time of year you burn will affect the quality of the burn

    Now that you know the drawbacks and benefits of prescribed burns, let’s move on to how to use
    fire to improve your land for wildlife.

    How to Manage Your Land With Fire

    So you’re convinced that using fire is the best way to manage your hunting property but have no
    idea where to begin?

    Don’t worry; I’ve got you covered! I’ve been burning our property since middle school, and I took
    several classes on it in college.

    While fire must be respected, it doesn’t have to be a terrifying monster. Let’s break burning your
    land down into several simple steps.

    1. Determine Your Goals – The first thing you should do is determine what you wish to accomplish by burning. Do you want to thin out an area to make it easier to hunt, manage some invasive species, or help the native plants produce more food for the animals to eat?
      • Your goals will determine what time of year you should burn, how often you should burn, and how much of your property you should burn. Your entire property doesn’t need to be burned every year. It’s best to have a mix of clearings and thickets.
    2. Create a Prescribed Burning Plan – Once you have set your goals, it’s time to devise a prescribed burning plan. According to the U.S. Department of Agriculture Forest Service, “Burn plans identify – or prescribe – the best conditions under which trees and other plants will burn to get the best results safely. Burn plans consider temperature, humidity, wind, moisture of the vegetation, and conditions for the dispersal of smoke.”
    3. Make the Fire Breaks Now that you have a plan, it’s time to create the fire lines around the area you plan to burn. I always make a fire break along the edge of our property, 10-20 wide, depending on how much fuel (dead leaves, grass, and trees) is on the ground. I’ll follow that up by creating smaller breaks throughout the property to slow down the fire or stop it from reaching the parts of the land I don’t want to be burned. Though it’s not my favorite method, you can create a fire break by discing the ground. However, I usually cut the grass very short and blow all the clippings toward the area that’s getting burned.
    4. Check the Weather – As the time to burn nears, watch the weather closely. It’s impossible to burn in wet conditions, but you also don’t want to burn during the dry season; otherwise, you risk a greater chance of the fire getting out of control. Wind direction and speed are also essential to pay attention to the days before, during, and after the burn.
    5. Burn – Now, the fun part, at least for me. Let the fire department know you’ll be burning that day, and start by lighting the downwind side of your property first. I prefer using a drip torch to light the fire, but I’ve drug old rags soaked in diesel in a pinch. Always have help, water, or a way to put out the fire on hand.
    6. Watch the New Life Flourish – A few days after you burn, you will see new sprouts of grass, trees, and other plants that deer, turkeys, and countless other animals will consume. Many of these plants are very nutritious for animals, and you’ll notice that they’ll quickly find and graze on these new plants.
    7. Hunt – It’s now time to reap the benefits of your labors. By burning your property, you’ll not only see more deer and turkeys, which means you’ll get to be more picky with the ones you harvest, but you’ll also create a habitat in which they can thrive because they’re getting the nutrients, shelter, and water they need.

    Parting Shots

    Growing up, I was always mesmerized by fire. I loved helping with the burning season on our
    small farm and the surrounding farms. However, it wasn’t until college, while obtaining my
    wildlife management degree, that I learned how beneficial fire was to wildlife.

    Now that you know the incredible benefits of using fire to manage your property, it’s time to
    draw up a prescribed burning plan and get to burning!

    About the Author
    Chris Dwulet is an avid competitive shooter and handloader. He’s also a principle writer for and runs their Ammunition Guides Podcast on YouTube

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    Challenging Judicial Overreach: Conservatives Sound Alarm Over Ruling Granting Gun Rights to Illegal Immigrants


    A recent federal court ruling in the Northern District of Illinois, granting Second Amendment rights to illegal immigrants, has sparked outrage among conservatives and raised serious concerns about the safety of law enforcement officers. U.S. District Judge Sharon Johnson Coleman’s decision in U.S. v. Carbajal-Flores has far-reaching implications that could undermine federal firearms regulations and jeopardize public safety.

    Unpacking the Ruling: Conservative Critique

    The ruling, which found that a federal prohibition on illegal immigrants owning firearms is unconstitutional as applied to defendant Heriberto Carbajal-Flores, has drawn sharp criticism from conservatives. Scott Sweetow, a former senior official at the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF), described the decision as “hugely problematic” for law enforcement and highlighted its potential to create chaos in the enforcement of federal firearms laws.

    Dividing Opinions: Controversy Surrounding Second Amendment Rights

    The case has divided gun rights activists and ignited debate over the boundaries of firearms regulations in light of the landmark 2022 Supreme Court decision in Bruen. While Judge Coleman acknowledged the federal ban on illegal immigrants as “facially constitutional,” she argued that there is no historical tradition of firearm regulation justifying the government’s deprivation of Second Amendment rights from noncitizens with no history of violent crime.

    Conservative Concerns: Upholding the Rule of Law

    Conservatives view Coleman’s ruling as deeply flawed and illogical, particularly in its potential to prioritize the rights of illegal immigrants over law-abiding citizens. Sweetow highlighted the absurdity of a legal immigrant being denied the right to carry a firearm while an illegal immigrant involved in reckless gun use is granted that privilege. This decision undermines the rule of law and poses a significant challenge to law enforcement agencies tasked with enforcing firearms regulations.

    Undermining Federal Regulations: Practical Implications

    The practical implications of Coleman’s decision are dire, according to Sweetow. By granting Second Amendment rights to illegal immigrants, the ruling effectively undermines decades of federal firearms regulations, including the 1968 Gun Control Act and subsequent amendments. Law enforcement agencies now face uncertainty in enforcing laws that may be deemed invalid, leading to potential chaos and compromising public safety.

    Call for Action: Appealing the Decision

    Conservatives argue that Coleman’s ruling must be appealed to prevent further erosion of federal firearms regulations and ensure the safety of communities. Without a successful appeal, prosecuting criminals for firearm possession will become increasingly challenging, casting doubt on the validity of existing laws and creating confusion among law enforcement officials.

    Conservatives stand firm in their commitment to upholding the rule of law and protecting the safety of American citizens and law enforcement officers. The decision in U.S. v. Carbajal-Flores represents a dangerous overreach by the judiciary and threatens to undermine the integrity of federal firearms regulations. It is imperative that this ruling be challenged and overturned to prevent further chaos and uphold the principles of justice and public safety.

    What do you think of the federal court’s ruling? Leave your thoughts in the comments below. 

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